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 Post subject: Re: Nick selling his guitars and gear
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:23 pm 
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Which Roundhouse gig was that? I was at the first one near the front and don't recall him doing that.

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Which Roundhouse gig was that? I was at the first one near the front and don't recall him doing that.


1st nite at the very end of Come On, so end of the set. The moment was trumped by RA smashing a balsa wood acoustic at the "climax" of Lucky Man on the Dec shed tour of 07.


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[quote="Lil ed"][quote="count_bearula"]Which Roundhouse gig was that? I was at the first one near the front and don't recall him doing that.


1st nite at the very end of Come On, so end of the set. The moment was trumped by RA smashing a balsa wood acoustic at the "climax" of Lucky Man on the Dec shed tour of 07.

Any idea what the **** was the cause of these two incidents?
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 Post subject: Re: Nick selling his guitars and gear
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I can't recall the exact details, but he also had a mini-moment in Vegas, 2008. Something was going wrong and he was upset and I believe he threw the guitar off the side of the stage to the guitar tech maybe? Or he tried to smash it and then threw it?

I got a twitter account for the first time, just to tweet the Verve setlist for the shows that week. Back in the day when you tweeted a text to a number on your phone. Haha. In his defense though, he always had so much going on with his gear, etc. Nothing is perfect and **** happens.

And for the comment about him having so much gear and so little output- I am sure he has thousands of hours of his own stuff recorded. Just never went public. I highly doubt his gear was collecting dust all these years and he wasn't making some sort of sounds on his own. Maybe I am wrong, I am most certainly not speaking for him but I would take a guess that he's got a **** ton of stuff sitting on hard drives.

That said, I'd eat someone's baby to just sit down, trip out and listen to it all. AHHHHHHHH. Ok maybe not a baby.

ps glad he kept spike. I was conspiring ways for that guitar to get back to him if it was indeed sold. 8-)


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I wonder what made him realize Verve were going to split again.

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Nick should write a book. Would make £££s


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For the love of music........
Maybe RPA will one day have to sell his acoustic or mic....?

And to imply everyone in the verve made millions.

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[quote="Permanent Starlight"][quote="Lil ed"][quote="count_bearula"]Which Roundhouse gig was that? I was at the first one near the front and don't recall him doing that.


1st nite at the very end of Come On, so end of the set. The moment was trumped by RA smashing a balsa wood acoustic at the "climax" of Lucky Man on the Dec shed tour of 07.

Any idea what the **** was the cause of these two incidents?

My impression was that Nick was a little miffed at Richard. Dickie mailed in a pretty uninspired performance that first night. At one point, I think during Already There, Rich got sloppy and skipped ahead, cutting off Nick's guitar part. Nick just kind of smiled, shook his head and played on. I also don't think he was happy about playing an Urban Hymns Tour Part 2 type of show. Just my guess. But it was pretty shocking to see. Don't know anything about the LM incident.
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Nick should write a book. Would make £££s

Yeah, that's about how many.

Don't get me wrong, I would read it. I'd even buy it. But how many others would? You have to write about vampires to sell a lot of books these days.

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My impression was that Nick was a little miffed at Richard. Dickie mailed in a pretty uninspired performance that first night. At one point, I think during Already There, Rich got sloppy and skipped ahead, cutting off Nick's guitar part. Nick just kind of smiled, shook his head and played on. I also don't think he was happy about playing an Urban Hymns Tour Part 2 type of show. Just my guess. But it was pretty shocking to see. Don't know anything about the LM incident.

That sucks... so it wasn't a blatant "blow smoke in his face" type thing. Maybe Richard didn't bother rehearsing as much as the other three did together? I think I read something like that a while back. I could see that being frustrating.

Here's the November 8th performance at the Roundhouse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq5L94lX4Fk

Sounds pretty fucking stellar to me (listen to 4:15 awww yeah!). Maybe it was the other night where it happened.

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Daniel wrote:
Nick should write a book. Would make £££s

No legitimate publisher would make an offer worth it. See RP's post.

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For the love of music........
Maybe RPA will one day have to sell his acoustic or mic....?

And to imply everyone in the verve made millions.

Obviously he made some good money and what came in royalty wise to sustain himself for nearly two decades. Then there was probably a decent amount of money involved with the Verve tour and Forth sales.


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So much gear but so little output over the years.


Shouldn't you be posting on a Taylor Swift forum?


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Roman Candle wrote:
Alex wrote:
So much gear but so little output over the years.


Shouldn't you be posting on a Taylor Swift forum?

Atleast she has enough material to have an actual discussion on.

You can only squeeze out so much from a small tube...


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Alex wrote:

You can only squeeze out so much from a small tube...


I have a feeling that you have some serious experience in the matter, so I won't argue.


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Roman Candle wrote:
Alex wrote:

You can only squeeze out so much from a small tube...


I have a feeling that you have some serious experience in the matter, so I won't argue.

Your mother seems to think it makes great tasting toothpaste.


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Alex wrote:
Roman Candle wrote:
Alex wrote:

You can only squeeze out so much from a small tube...


I have a feeling that you have some serious experience in the matter, so I won't argue.

Your mother seems to think it makes great tasting toothpaste.


At least my mother actually has teeth, unlike yours.


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At least I was clever with the tube and toothpaste but you had to be lame.

Oh well.

Back to Nicks gear...where's his mesa boogie amp. Or the Roland space echo. Maybe I missed it.


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As I remember it, Simon sent Nick a text after the gig asking if he was OK. Nick texted back saying something like "Not really - Si is worse." We were all saying "Fuuuuuuck. Not again."


Jesus, i'd forgotten that!! Yeah that was a definite low.


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As I remember things, Nick & Si had to fight hard to get certain songs on the setlist (things like Man Called Sun). Richard didn't want to do them and only gave in to a few of these. I think the writing was on the wall from that point and Nick & Si knew that this was never going anywhere.


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Alright Si!

When Come On was pulled from the setlist... that felt like something was wrong to me. Couldn't understand that.


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SimonR wrote:
As I remember things, Nick & Si had to fight hard to get certain songs on the setlist (things like Man Called Sun). Richard didn't want to do them and only gave in to a few of these. I think the writing was on the wall from that point and Nick & Si knew that this was never going anywhere.

Despite Richard's "this is the greatest b-side ever written" introduction huh? Weird stuff.

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SimonR wrote:
As I remember things, Nick & Si had to fight hard to get certain songs on the setlist (things like Man Called Sun). Richard didn't want to do them and only gave in to a few of these. I think the writing was on the wall from that point and Nick & Si knew that this was never going anywhere.

I can't exactly blame Richard for not wanting to play those songs.

They came from a time that Richard no longer recognizes anymore. He probably felt like a phony. As much as I love ASIH, even Nick admitted it is the work of young men.


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Alex wrote:
SimonR wrote:
As I remember things, Nick & Si had to fight hard to get certain songs on the setlist (things like Man Called Sun). Richard didn't want to do them and only gave in to a few of these. I think the writing was on the wall from that point and Nick & Si knew that this was never going anywhere.

I can't exactly blame Richard for not wanting to play those songs.

They came from a time that Richard no longer recognizes anymore. He probably felt like a phony. As much as I love ASIH, even Nick admitted it is the work of young men.


And the following two albums aren't?

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WanderingSoul wrote:
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As I remember things, Nick & Si had to fight hard to get certain songs on the setlist (things like Man Called Sun). Richard didn't want to do them and only gave in to a few of these. I think the writing was on the wall from that point and Nick & Si knew that this was never going anywhere.

I can't exactly blame Richard for not wanting to play those songs.

They came from a time that Richard no longer recognizes anymore. He probably felt like a phony. As much as I love ASIH, even Nick admitted it is the work of young men.


And the following two albums aren't?

I forgot to add, I can't imagine watching the Verve, as aged as they are now, playing songs from ASIH without shamanic Richard going wild. But if he was to do that still, would be about as embarrassing as seeing Iggy Pop onstage with no shirt.

There should be an age cap on those playing rock music. After a certain age you just look like a dinosaur.

But as far as the following two albums...it seems to me the scars on ANS didn't run as deep, there is a lot of heartbreak on that album. But then he regained love, hence why UH was much more ebullient. The lyrical content of ANS is a lot more personal than the bunk bed stoned dreamer on ASIH.


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The lyrical content of ANS is a lot more personal than the bunk bed stoned dreamer on ASIH.


No disagreement with that. I just don't think that A Storm in Heaven in particular sounds like the work of young men in some way that the following two don't.

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