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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:45 am 
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Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?

Did what?

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:30 pm 
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Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?

Did what?


I know that you want to make fun of any comment I write but... In the Forth Deluxe Version it's possible to see a pic of a board where there're some songs' names written, which remind of other ones that appear in the Ashcroft's last solo album. Therefore, I thought that maybe Ain't the Future a Trip sounds similar to Ain't the Future So Bright. Something similar happened to other songs before, such as: Brave New World, C'mon People, Misty Morning June, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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Thethirdreunion wrote:
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Thethirdreunion wrote:
Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?

Did what?


I know that you want to make fun of any comment I write but... In the Forth Deluxe Version it's possible to see a pic of a board where there're some songs' names written, which remind of other ones that appear in the Ashcroft's last solo album. Therefore, I thought that maybe Ain't the Future a Trip sounds similar to Ain't the Future So Bright. Something similar happened to other songs before, such as: Brave New World, C'mon People, Misty Morning June, etc.

It couldn't have sounded more different. Maybe he just liked the title.

And I'm not making fun of your comment. I just didn't understand the question.

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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Thethirdreunion wrote:
Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?


Yes it did, i managed to listen to this before it was taken down, the words are sung by Richard in the same melody as 'Ain't the Future So Bright'. So it is the same song in my opinion, which has been reworked for Richards solo album.

As someone else has posted it sounded like it was from the same recording as the 'thaw session'.


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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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jes wrote:
It couldn't have sounded more different. Maybe he just liked the title.


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Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?


Yes it did, i managed to listen to this before it was taken down, the words are sung by Richard in the same melody as 'Ain't the Future So Bright'. So it is the same song in my opinion, which has been reworked for Richards solo album.

As someone else has posted it sounded like it was from the same recording as the 'thaw session'.


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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:53 pm 
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I listened to it a couple of times before it was taken down. Am listening to Ain't The Future So Bright now as a means of comparison. Musically & melodically they sound nothing alike. In the now deleted song, Richard started off in a bit of a falsetto in the vocals. Not done in his song. the Verve track started off slow before it kicked into it's groove about midway through. Richard's track has the same tempo throughout.
Aside from a similar title, it doesn't sound the same at all to my ears.

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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I still think that Ain't the Future So Bright is a reworking of the Verve demo that is 'Ain't the Future a Trip'.
Yes the song starts very slowly with not alot going on for the first few minutes, then Richard begins to sing in a very high pitched fallsetto voice the words 'Ain't The Future A Trip' in the same melody as Ain't the Future So Bright. As i remember the last few minutes is very much Nick Simon and Pete jamming.

Richards Solo track has more beats and electronic noises going on, and as you say the same tempo throughout, almost a attempt at hip hop, which in comparison to the verve version is musically very different but lyrically i think this is the same song, which Richard has reworked, reconstructed and kept for himself


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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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already there wrote:
I still think that Ain't the Future So Bright is a reworking of the Verve demo that is 'Ain't the Future a Trip'.
Yes the song starts very slowly with not alot going on for the first few minutes, then Richard begins to sing in a very high pitched fallsetto voice the words 'Ain't The Future A Trip' in the same melody as Ain't the Future So Bright. As i remember the last few minutes is very much Nick Simon and Pete jamming.

Richards Solo track has more beats and electronic noises going on, and as you say the same tempo throughout, almost a attempt at hip hop, which in comparison to the verve version is musically very different but lyrically i think this is the same song, which Richard has reworked, reconstructed and kept for himself


The "Ain't The Future A Trip" bit is similar to the "Ain't The Future So Bright" bit, yes. Both have the "ain't" part rather drawn out. That's the only part that I think is similar. From my recollection, anyway. I do think Richard took that part and reworked it for his track. But musically, I don't think they are similar.

Welcome aboard here, by the way, already there.

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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already there wrote:
I still think that Ain't the Future So Bright is a reworking of the Verve demo that is 'Ain't the Future a Trip'.
Yes the song starts very slowly with not alot going on for the first few minutes, then Richard begins to sing in a very high pitched fallsetto voice the words 'Ain't The Future A Trip' in the same melody as Ain't the Future So Bright. As i remember the last few minutes is very much Nick Simon and Pete jamming.

Richards Solo track has more beats and electronic noises going on, and as you say the same tempo throughout, almost a attempt at hip hop, which in comparison to the verve version is musically very different but lyrically i think this is the same song, which Richard has reworked, reconstructed and kept for himself


By the way, Already There, did you manage to record the song?

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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Thethirdreunion wrote:
jes wrote:
It couldn't have sounded more different. Maybe he just liked the title.


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Thethirdreunion wrote:
Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?


Yes it did, i managed to listen to this before it was taken down, the words are sung by Richard in the same melody as 'Ain't the Future So Bright'. So it is the same song in my opinion, which has been reworked for Richards solo album.

As someone else has posted it sounded like it was from the same recording as the 'thaw session'.


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Did it sound a bit similar to "Ain't the Future So Bright"?

jes wrote:
It couldn't have sounded more different

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which in comparison to the verve version is musically very different

which bit is confusing you?

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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Thethirdreunion wrote:
already there wrote:
I still think that Ain't the Future So Bright is a reworking of the Verve demo that is 'Ain't the Future a Trip'.
Yes the song starts very slowly with not alot going on for the first few minutes, then Richard begins to sing in a very high pitched fallsetto voice the words 'Ain't The Future A Trip' in the same melody as Ain't the Future So Bright. As i remember the last few minutes is very much Nick Simon and Pete jamming.

Richards Solo track has more beats and electronic noises going on, and as you say the same tempo throughout, almost a attempt at hip hop, which in comparison to the verve version is musically very different but lyrically i think this is the same song, which Richard has reworked, reconstructed and kept for himself


By the way, Already There, did you manage to record the song?


No i didn't, I'm not sure how you record from youtube.


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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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jes wrote:
which bit is confusing you?


I think it's pretty clear.

You: It couldn't have sounded more different

Already there: the words are sung by Richard in the same melody as 'Ain't the Future So Bright'.

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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No i didn't, I'm not sure how you record from youtube.


There are many simple ways to record a song from Youtube.

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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well help him out then... he's on your side !!

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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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Damn missed it. Anyone record it?


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 Post subject: Re: Ain't The Future a Trip?
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starsail wrote:
Damn missed it. Anyone record it?

Just listen to Ain't the Future so Bright. Because it's the same song, apparently :roll:

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