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 Post subject: RA's greatest ever vocal performance?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:35 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: RA's greatest ever vocal performance?
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I've long thought this. I've always loved his vocals on this tracks, the rawness makes it so real. The "cry, I cry every night, I need to hold you ... tight" bit does it every fucking time.

I will give an honourable mention to Appalachian Springs. Two polar opoosites, AS is much more polished, but I feel it showcases his range and abilities.

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Honorable Mentions: Appalachian Springs, So It Goes, Rolling People, Come On, Weeping Willow, A New Decade, Space and Time, Judas, Lord I've Been Trying, Words Just Get In The Way, They Don't Own Me (!)

Hey you said VOCAL performances. Honestly These People (album) may be the finest vocals he's recorded yet, too bad its accompanied by utter **** music though. :mrgreen:


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Upon further reflection, I See The Door has some fantastic vocals on it, as well. That's a brilliant tune.

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sean wrote:
No knock on my door.
Best verve vocal performance.

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Was No Knock On My Door ever played live? I've never heard a live version of it.

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Was No Knock On My Door ever played live? I've never heard a live version of it.


if I could ever find me Verve scrapbook, there was defo a Melody Maker live review circa '95 (@ either Leeds Duchess of York or the Birmingham Jug of Ale gigs I think ) before the album dropped that mentions ''new songs being aired, amongst them 'no knock on my door' etc etc..''

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Judas
App Springs
Life Can Be So Beautiful
They Don't Own Me
Hold On

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Judas and App Springs are hardly a stretch vocally. He could sing them in his sleep.

They Don't Own Me sounds like "they dote on me" ad infinitum.

I hate the way he sings on Hold On. Sounds like something Pete Waterman would produce.

Life Can Be So Beautiful, I would say, is his single worst vocal performance.


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choonin_in wrote:

I hate the way he sings on Hold On. Sounds like something Pete Waterman would produce.


The Richie Dinero reggaeton remix is going to sound incredible though.


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[quote="jes"][quote="jadams503"]Judas
App Springs
Life Can Be So Beautiful
They Don't Own Me
Hold On

You're drunk. Go home

jadams has descended into blatant, ****-poor wummery.
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Life can be so beautiful is absolutely shocking. The falsetto, the mumbling spoken parts, its just a mess. I honestly can't believe out of a hundred songs, anyone with any musical taste would pick that. I'm shocked, Jadams.


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Life can be so beautiful is absolutely shocking. The falsetto, the mumbling spoken parts, its just a mess. I honestly can't believe out of a hundred songs, anyone with any musical taste would pick that. I'm shocked, Jadams.


I wouldn't say it's the worse song in UNOS, Beatitudes is much much worse.

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[quote="choonin_in"]Judas and App Springs are hardly a stretch vocally. He could sing them in his sleep.


But the drama, the cooing falsetto, the atmosphere! Judas might have his all time best vocals, his voice matches all the intrigue and magic from the others in that incredible build-up.

[quote="choonin_in"]They Don't Own Me sounds like "they dote on me" ad infinitum.

That's funny. Still, he sings brilliantly on it, channeling all the great British rock singers with depth and taste.

[quote="sean"]jadams has descended into blatant, ****-poor wummery.

Had to look up your obscure vernacular, Sean.

[quote="mayfield2"]Life can be so beautiful is absolutely shocking. The falsetto, the mumbling spoken parts, its just a mess. I honestly can't believe out of a hundred songs, anyone with any musical taste would pick that. I'm shocked, Jadams.

I hated it the first time I heard it, but it revealed a lot with repeated listens. Richard has long used tons of multitracking, the layers expressing different hooks and moods, but here he uses the different voices to sort of converse with one another about love and *** and evolution. Not saying it all entirely hangs together but he sounds fantastic, the lower parts are a bit like the spoken word parts of Noise Epic, and the David Axelrod sample is his best since BSS. The strings are amazing and I even like the flutes, very blaxploitation. The song just sounds like a spacey revelation, deeper and richer than anything prior in his solo career.

It's also the one song that really ambitiously tries for the "hip-hop soul" thing he'd long promised. Something different and one of his best.

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You do make a compelling argument, I'll give you that.

I quite like Judas, actually. They Don't Own Me isn't bad, just very generic.

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It's also the one song that really ambitiously tries for the "hip-hop soul" thing he'd long promised. Something different and one of his best.
I might not get many people agreeing with me here, but I'd say he came closer, and with better results, on Muhammad Ali (Forth version).


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Is this on the new remastered ANS?

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[quote="jadams503"][quote="choonin_in"]Judas and App Springs are hardly a stretch vocally. He could sing them in his sleep.


But the drama, the cooing falsetto, the atmosphere! Judas might have his all time best vocals, his voice matches all the intrigue and magic from the others in that incredible build-up.

[quote="choonin_in"]They Don't Own Me sounds like "they dote on me" ad infinitum.

That's funny. Still, he sings brilliantly on it, channeling all the great British rock singers with depth and taste.

[quote="sean"]jadams has descended into blatant, ****-poor wummery.

Had to look up your obscure vernacular, Sean.

[quote="mayfield2"]Life can be so beautiful is absolutely shocking. The falsetto, the mumbling spoken parts, its just a mess. I honestly can't believe out of a hundred songs, anyone with any musical taste would pick that. I'm shocked, Jadams.

I hated it the first time I heard it, but it revealed a lot with repeated listens. Richard has long used tons of multitracking, the layers expressing different hooks and moods, but here he uses the different voices to sort of converse with one another about love and *** and evolution. Not saying it all entirely hangs together but he sounds fantastic, the lower parts are a bit like the spoken word parts of Noise Epic, and the David Axelrod sample is his best since BSS. The strings are amazing and I even like the flutes, very blaxploitation. The song just sounds like a spacey revelation, deeper and richer than anything prior in his solo career.

It's also the one song that really ambitiously tries for the "hip-hop soul" thing he'd long promised. Something different and one of his best.

jadams you write very well, enough to make me replay Life Can Be So Beautiful. I just can't hear what you are hearing though. I agree with mayfield, the track is a mess. The falsetto is awful and the spoken words on Noise Epic are comprehensible atleast. Terrible drum kit, its shockingly bad since No ID produced it.

That's the thing though, I don't know if you can even call it a "hip-hop soul". Sure you can credit Richard for having an umm "unique" vision for the project, but the execution was abysmally bad. One of the worst attempts at crossover/fusion ever. It's certainly the blueprint what not to do. Lil Wayne tried to do the opposite and the results were just as horrific.

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